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Fun with Craigslist.org.

So all six of you that read regularly know how much I love Craigslist, specifically it's rants and raves section

This is where you can basically anonymously spew bile as much as you want and some of the time it doesn't even get flagged for removal.

These posts typically spawn threads of "you're a dick", "no, you're a dick", "yeah, im gonna key your SUV", "then I'm gonna brain you with a baseball bat" and so on. Flame Warriors abound.

All good fun.

the most recent fun starts with the following:


Maureen the bitch


Date: 2003-08-21, 11:50AM


A bitch, called Maureen, is sending out spam from various e-mail accounts to Craig's List posters. Hey bitch, knock it of or I will report you to you ISP and they will terminate your account.


it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
this is in or around SF

[ When i was a kid i used to have a huge crush on a Maureen. She was swell. I bet this isn't her ]

Apparently, Maureen has been reading...


From Maureen the Bitch (it's not me!!)


Date: 2003-08-21, 12:50PM


Sorry...but I'm not the one sending spam from my account...someone has gotten ahold of my info and is spamming. I've received the stuff, too. Sorry...but not sure how to stop it. Anyone know??

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Now, of course i'm not gonna let this lie....


RE:From Maureen the Bitch (it's not me!!)


Date: 2003-08-21, 1:12PM


Sorry...but I'm not the one sending spam from my account...someone has gotten ahold of my info and is spamming. I've received the stuff, too. Sorry...but not sure how to stop it. Anyone know??

Yes, see, you need to realize that people have accounts with passwords so each person can have THEIR OWN account.

These are protected by your password

The key here is to NOT let somone get "ahold of my info." That's exactly why you have a password. If we weren't worried about anyone being able to do anything they wanted, we wouldn't bother giving out passwords in the first place

Take your account, and cancel it.
Make a NEW account, with a password people can't figure out immediately.
DO NOT give out your password to anyone. Ever. Period.
Your friends can go get their own accounts
Be glad this list is anonymous

not smart. just not smart in the slightest. Unplug your machine and get it back to fighting shape and get back you your solitare.

really, I wish computers still cost $45,000 apiece. We'd all be a lot beter off.

jesus christ.


it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
this is in or around la internet

Feeling like I've finally accomplished something today, day 102 of my exile, I go off to play with the user section a little, smoke a butt, and talk to shamus? on the phone. A bit later (17 minutes) I get this.

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-------- Original Message --------
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: X. Xxxxxxxxxxx 
To: anon-15206051@craigslist.org

gawd..

give it a rest, already!

if you are so smart, how come you dont know how easy
it is for someone to FORGE a freaking HEADER on an
email and send it so it LOOKS like it is coming from
MAureen's account?

Thats what this virus shit is all about, numbnuts!

Grow up!

spam and forged headers happen..perhaps YOU ought to
be the one not using a computer! 

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MORE FUN!

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-------- Original Message --------
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:39:25 -0700
From: SlappyJack 
To: X. Xxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re:

uh...  i think youre yelling at the wrong person?

if you don't have the wrong person:

I do realise how not hard it is to forge a header, but Maureen said herself:
"someone has gotten ahold of my info and is spamming"

'gotten ahold of my info' is NOT forging a header, as far as I know.

as far as the virus goes...  uhm...  yeah. I see your point.

I mean, noone has been warning anyone else about viruses for the past 5 
years or anything.  Noone has been telling us all "do not open 
attachments that are suspect" for the past 5 years.  noone has been 
telling us all for the past 5 years to get antivirus software for your 
computer and keep the shit updated.

Nope.  Noone has been doing that at all.  Viruses.  hunh.  Who'da thunk 
it?  Viruses on the internet?  News to me.

"garden_faerie63"?
please.

-sj

        I'm building an army.
		I'm not sure what it'll do, but you want in.
		http://www.slappyjack.com/user
		

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Note:
      If you email me and you have the word faerie in your username:
            I, along with a large hunk of the world, will instantly consider you an idiot.

I just very well happen to be aware that I'm a bitter, little man.

then, I just saw this:


RE:From Maureen the Bitch (it's not me!!)


Date: 2003-08-21, 1:58PM


It's wonderful to see morons pretend they have a clue about what they're talking about, especially when they try to talk down to others with their limited sophmoric knowledge. Hey fool, ya - you with the attitude and the crooked teeth - why don't you take a few minutes from your tremendously busy schedule of being pompous to look up how most SMTP mailers work. Guess what, Mr. Wizard, it's really easy to spoof email address and you don't even need their account or password!

Most SMTP mailers still do not perform any authentication. When you connect to port 25, you (the client) establish your identity through the amazingly secure mechanism of simply telling it who you think you are. No passwords, no security. You just type in an email address. It can be any email address, it doesn't usually even have to be at your ISP. Sure, some of the more modern mailers and ISPs have been patched to support authentication - but the vast majority out there still do not support this. Spammers only need to find a small handful of unpatched mailers to do their relaying for them. If they're using their own mailers, they can tell it to do whatever they want it to do.

The following is a complete, functional transcript of how to spoof an email:

telnet somemailer.com 25
HELO
MAIL FROM: pompousfool@dorksrus.com
RCPT TO: spamlist! (okay, you'd use EXPN probably - but you get the point)
DATA
Herbal viagra, only $300 per tab!
.
QUIT

Notice, you can enter any email address you want on the MAIL FROM line. Most mail clients automate this process, but spammers typically script their own to do some of these tricks.

Why would someone want to do this and use someone's legit email? They're bastards with a special spot warmed up for them in hell, perhaps? Other than that, if it's a legitimate email address sometimes it gets around some of the spam detection filters. I've had my own email hijaacked like this before, as well, and it sucks - especially when you start getting all the bounced messages (bad spam list, dead accounts) and angry people. It's a distraction technique these bastards use to continue their evil trade.

Now you've been educated. Aren't you happy knowing what an ignorant jackass you really were? Who isn't smart? You aren't smart! Jesus Christ indeed...
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

I do really love it when guys get so angry they type in stuff like it's a shell account, just as a helpful example. the only thing that post was missing was the smell of potato chip grease and a few stains from the Jolt Cola can.

and then I got this! YAY!!!!!!

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-------- Original Message --------
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: X. Xxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re:
To: SlappyJack 

Hey slappy

MAYBE, just maybe...."getting hold of my information"
means (to this person) "email address"

And frankly...

as far as THIS 

> "garden_faerie63"?
> please.

is concerned?   coming from "slappy Jack" I dont think
I would be quick to critique!

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So I, "pompousfool@dorksrus.com" retort....


Re:RE:From Maureen the Bitch (it's not me!!)


Date: 2003-08-21, 2:18PM


It's wonderful to see morons pretend they have a clue about what they're talking about, especially when they try to talk down to others with their limited sophmoric knowledge. Hey fool, ya - you with the attitude and the crooked teeth - why don't you take a few minutes from your tremendously busy schedule of being pompous to look up how most SMTP mailers work. Guess what, Mr. Wizard, it's really easy to spoof email address and you don't even need their account or password!

I happen to beleive it is even more wonderful to see people getting up their hackles without reading entire posts.

See, Maureen plainly stated:
"someone has gotten ahold of my info and is spamming"

'gotten ahold of my info' is NOT about forging a header, as far as I know.

as far as the virus possibility goes... uhm... yeah. I see your point.

I mean, noone has been warning anyone else about viruses for the past 5 years or anything. Noone has been telling us all "do not open attachments that are suspect" for the past 5 years. noone has been telling us all for the past 5 years to get antivirus software for your computer and keep the shit updated.

Nope. Noone has been doing that at all. Viruses. hunh. Who'da thunk it? Viruses on the internet? News to me.




(as for the rest of you: isn't this more interesting than "Are BBW's really B" or "[ insert conversation about minority women|drivers|workers here ]")

AND RETORT! YAAAAAY!

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-------- Original Message --------
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:28:38 -0700
From: SlappyJack 
To: X. Xxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Let's give this a subject, shall we?

X. Xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hey slappy

Hey R.

> MAYBE, just maybe...."getting hold of my information"
> means (to this person) "email address"

Not knowing a damn thing about your machine is no excuse for either
A) Letting other people use your accounts
B) Not hearing the giant alarming klaxons the media have put up abuot 
viruses

> And frankly...
> as far as THIS 
>>"garden_faerie63"?
>>please.
> is concerned?   coming from "slappy Jack" I dont think
> I would be quick to critique!

A) Thats 'cause you're not me

B) You're correct.  I shuold have come up with something so uniquely 
identifying and personal that I had to slap the year I was born on the 
end of it.  You've got me there, Garden.

Again, you've blown giant holes in my own perceived self worth.

-sj

        I'm building an army.
		I'm not sure what it'll do, but you want in.
		http://www.slappyjack.com/user

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uh, oh. The Garden Faerie is now simply known as "unhappy"
this, by the way, is what your messages come to me from my contact form as.

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''unhappy'' (your_email_address_again_silly@yahoo.com) sent you a message
They sent this message:
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You really need to remove my identifying information 
from your website.


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IP address: 999.999.999.999 in case you wanna block them!
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Unhappy, since I have your attention, I'll just tell you here:

Not a Chance.
  1. You don't want your email to get out, don't send it to people you don't konw.
  2. I don't know how you can call the fact that your yahoo profile says you're a woman [if you are who you say you are!] counts as identifying information

    "Lookit that woman walking down the street! I bet thats Garden_Faerie63! That's Her!!!!!"

You big silly. Your yahoo email account is totally anonymous. I can't trace it. [ I went in and looked at the headers again. The first thign in there is the IP of the originating machine. - sj ] You just went and used a form on my site, shich now tells me you're at the IP 999.999.999.999.

It took me a total of 12 seconds to find out who owns that IP address and because of who it is, most likely where the machine using it is located.

That, I'm not gona post, because:

  1. I like you cause you got spunk
  2. Posting your IP would allow people to pinpoint roughly where you are, because that IS identifying information.

I also know you came to the site and went to these pages:


	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:36:01 /users
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:36:01 /user
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:36:02 /user/
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:36:31 /rants/20030821.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:38:45 /contact.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:39:28 /contact.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:39:55 /spam/?M=D
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:40:05 /spam/20010621b.txt
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:40:31 /legal.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:40:52 /rants/20030818.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:41:33 /contact.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:41:36 /rants/20030821.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:41:45 /KMA.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:42:10 /user/index.phtml?show_user=SlappyJack
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:42:39 /rants/20030821.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:48:47 /bio/index.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:49:51 /crap/index.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:49:52 /crap/storeheader.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:50:14 /
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:50:28 /cards/build_card.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:51:54 /cards/build_card.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:52:02 /cards/build_card.phtml
	Your.IP.address.Here 21/Aug/2003:15:52:43 /


At this point I'm growing bored with the whole thing, and I need to shower and get out of the goddamn house. G_F emailled me and asked again nicely to hide her info, so I covered up some of her stuff.

That's at least fair.

Thats me, just a big old softie. I'm getting soft in my age.

Slap out.

21 Aug 03

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